tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207011.post7118322667808504949..comments2024-02-23T15:48:24.856-07:00Comments on The Cracked Crystal Ball II: Was I Really MisInterpreting The Pope?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207011.post-49319891788422125142009-01-08T06:23:00.000-07:002009-01-08T06:23:00.000-07:00Jerry,Since the Church's teachings on sexuality in...Jerry,<BR/><BR/>Since the Church's teachings on sexuality in general either ignore the more complete understandings of biology and human behaviour we have today, you are correct - I'm not likely to buy.<BR/><BR/>When the Church comes forward with a model that doesn't involve dismissing perfectly normal human behaviour as "objectively disordered" (a weasel phrase if I've ever heard one - devoid of meaning and filled with implications) It is in fact language like this which is dismissive of the very human narrative of GLBT people, and by using such language, the Church is effectively saying that those narratives are invalid.<BR/><BR/>If you've never heard the church <I>label the entire GLBT population with such terms</I>, then you haven't been paying attention. In the years since I started this blog, you can count on someone from the Church hierarchy opening their yap about the "evil" of homosexuality, or the "evil" of what they euphemistically call "gender confusion" (transsexualism to the rest of us) pretty regularly.<BR/><BR/>Sure, they might wrap it in flowery prose or nest it in the obscure language of the Humanae Vitae, but it boils down to the same thing every time. <BR/><BR/>The point I make is that I do not accept the Church's teachings because I argue that they are built upon a flawed foundation.MgShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183962674882855323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7207011.post-28745156936947104532009-01-08T01:33:00.000-07:002009-01-08T01:33:00.000-07:00MgS, I doubt anyone could convince you of the corr...MgS, I doubt anyone could convince you of the correctness of the Church’s teachings on human sexuality. However, the fact that you continue to deliberately misrepresent what the Church teaches highlights you’re not so much interested in showing so called errors in Church teaching, but in creating straw man arguments so as to promote hate and contempt against the Church.<BR/><BR/>You say for example “[The Church] essentially tells an entire population [GLBT] that they are for one reason or another immoral, evil or invalid as people.” Well of course any individual, GLBT or normal, may be immoral or evil, but I’ve never heard the Church label the entire GLBT population with such terms. Also, I’ve never heard the Church describe any person as invalid, although those who support abortion obviously think the unborn are invalid people).<BR/><BR/>Instead of telling lies about what the Church teaches, why not improve your credibility by providing links to official Church teaching? The following is from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 2357-2359.<BR/><BR/>2357<BR/>"Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.<BR/><BR/>2358<BR/>The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.<BR/><BR/>2359<BR/>Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.<BR/><BR/>Church teaching sourced from here: http://couragerc.net/MTChastityand%20Homosexuality.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com